used headphones — we just sang out into the world as just a trio , The John Doe Folk Trio .
IE : So you ’ ve mastered the songwriting art , like Springsteen , of completely assuming a character ?
JD : Yeah . I mean , I wasn ’ t Johnny of “ Johnny Hit and Run Paulene ,” of course ! But you just borrow stuff from your own personal experience and expand on it , blow it up and exaggerate it into what piece , song , or character you might be working on , and the same if it ’ s a movie or something like that . You ’ ve got to connect deeply . I mean , Neko Case does that really well . She connects deeply with stories that she reads about other people , and then she just becomes that thing . So I ’ m not sure exactly where this came from , but it started , and I thought , “ Oh , well , THIS is cool .” And I don ’ t exactly like a lot of what they call progress nowadays , so I can relate to this ; I can get behind it .
IE : And you actually have this whole long history with Dave Grohl that recently led
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to him and his daughter Violet duetting on X ’ s vintage deep cut “ Nausea ,” right ? JD : Yeah . There was a movie that Paul Schrader did that I was a part of called ** Touch . And I think that the movie itself was good , although it could have been a lot better . But Christopher Walken was amazing in it , and then somehow Dave Grohl was involved in the soundtrack , and he said , “ Let ’ s write a song together .” So yeah , I was flattered that he and his daughter wanted to do that song , and they went in there , and they did a pretty honest reading of it , just went in there and did their thing .
IE : Was “ Nausea ” inspired by Sartre ? JD : That was part of it , yeah . But it was more about just having a hangover and working on some words that Exene wrote . It ’ s about living in poverty but seeing something that was worthy in that lack . And hey ! I worked at a bookstore — I could recognize a good title when I saw one ! Although it was Billy , who came up with “ Alphabetland .”
IE : Occasionally during the pandemic , and
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