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w e r d n A represented by our label, because the album ended up getting pegged as really difficult and experimental. And it was in some ways, but it also wasn’t as hard to get through as some people made it out to be. So we were at a point where I didn’t know what was going to happen, and it took until early 2016 when we started writing to see this little glimmer of, “Oh yeah – we’ve still got it! We still have a connection!” MGMT, 2007 04•2018 other for 20 years, but it just felt like we found our bond again, which was really good. IE: Ironically by putting the entire country between you, with you living in Rockaway Beach and Ben moving to L.A. AV: Yeah. By getting as much distance between us as possible. And if you had talked to me at the end of 2014 or 2015, I probably would never have guessed that we would be sitting here, having made an album that has pop songs on it, one that our label likes. That’s just not the path that I had foreseen. I was really uncertain, and I was in a place of haziness as to where we were going to go. Ben was moving to California, so I didn’t know how that was going to affect things. And the whole album cycle with our third album was not that fun, and it felt like we had been mis- 12 illinoisentertainer.com april 2018 IE: It’s hilarious that, sonically, the sunni- est song on the album is called “When You Die.” AV: Ha! Some of our friends were really questioning our decision to put that song out – they thought it was going to be a real turn-off for people. But I’m really glad we did it – in some ways, it’s the most MGMT song on the album. That’s something that we’ve always been into – having this bub- bly, poppy music with these really heavy lyrics. So I think the album has this arc, where it’s fighting with itself and then it gets somewhere positive by the end of it, in a psycho-therapeutic way. IE: The underlying message seems to be, ‘You want hits? Here! Here’s some fucking hits!’ AW : Yeah, That’s a nice way to look at it. But I think that was more for us, me and Ben, than anybody else. It was me telling myself, “Look, motherfucker – you can still actually write great songs!” Tom Lanham