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themselves have not learned how to make it more commercially viable. It doesn’t all have to be contestational rap; we have to be aware of what we’re selling. Fito: Rappers harshly criticize society, but it is into that very same society that they hope to become integrated. The relationship with institutions is not that of sponsorship, but rather of exchange. If the door is closed, they knock, push, break it down, and go in! Hip-hop is an imported culture that has been taking root. And people are more apt to accept it than tradition, because of what is in style, fetishism, although I am not at all interested in that. I defend it because it influences minds and offers solutions. I don’t think that has been fully appreciated, the possibility of rap as having social impact. Vega: What made you decide to launch an independent publication? Isn’t a print publication riskier than a digital site? Mirita: I believe that art and freedom will always find a space. I am reminded of the risk by how some institutions from which we’ve requested support for presenting the magazine have reacted. We say: “Look, read it so you can see what it’s about,” and they’ve answered: “It’s independent? Don’t even show it to me!” So, you see how it is? But I decided that that would not stop me, no matter what happens to us; we are going to keep publishing it. Vega: How do you distribute it? Mirita: We organize a concert and that’s were we present each issue. We give printed and CD copies away. People are grateful; many who work at institutions have offered to collaborate with us, to help us. Of course, we still have more work to do on the concept, on the magazine, too, but it is fulfilling a function, filling a real void. Right now, it is the only magazine that talks about what is going on with Cuban hip-hop. Vega: Have you noticed any increased flexibility in cultural policies? Do you think there’s an objective possibility to negotiate with institutions? 80 Fito: I prefer thinking about “people” over institutions, people who can provide that very necessary change to get closer. I mean, you have Rensoli, for example, who founded the Rap Festival, and the Director of the Casa Cultura, well, she knows that hip-hop is not an option for Alamar, even though it’s part of its identity. Right now, I think there is a latent possibility, and the concert in the amphitheater celebrating Fila shows what can be achieved. My father would often say to me: “The country is dying to change; it cannot go on as it is.” And even the institutions need the artists to support themselves. We’re not talking about something abstract; it is a question of logistics. Hip-Hop concert Mirita: We’re seeing that right now with the Cuban Rap Agency. Rappers who don’t generate income will have to leave. The policy is to be profitable. Vega: But, despite that hope, you’ve decided to definitively leave the country… Fito, you who were talking about the limit when we started this conversation…it seems you’ve encountered and clashed with one anyway. Don’t you think Cuba needs people like you both? Fito: My opinion is not optimistic, but it comes from my own experience. It is that any company that aspires to grow and expand here in Cuba will find that it’s not poss