Likewise, Joseph Andreas Epp was a self-admitted consultant for
both the Schriever-Habermohl project at Prag and the Miethe
project in Dresden and Breslau. Mr. Epp wrote to me personally
(2) and has written several articles and a book about German
saucers before he died in 1997 (3).
An example of a witness who had prior knowledge of German saucers
would be Georg Klein. Klein was an engineer, an eyewitness to a
saucer lift-off on February 14, 1945. He was also Special
Commissioner in the Ministry of Arms Production who oversaw both
the Schriever-Habermohl and Miethe-Belluzzo projects for Albert
Speer. Mr. Klein has written some newspaper articles about these
facts such as his article in Welt am Stonntag, titled "Erste
"Flugscheibe" flog 1945 in Prag" (The First Flying Disc flew in
Prag in 1945)(4) . Other newspaper references of Mr. Klein will
be mentioned. He has also written under the pen-name of Georg
Sautier.
Another example would be the unnamed eyewitness provided by
researcher Horst Schuppmann and first reported in Karl-Heinz
Zunneck's book Geheimtechnoloaien. Wunderwaffen Und Irdischen
Facetten Des UFO-Phaenomens (Secret Technology, Wonder-weapons
and the Terrestrial Facts of the UFO Phenomenon). In this report
the informant relates a wartime experience in which he witnessed
several small flying saucers in a hangar (5).
George Lusar is an example of a source falling under category
three. Lusar worked for the German Patent Office during World
War Two. He saw many secret patents as they came into his
office. After the War he wrote a book and some articles
concerning this technology which was taken by the Allies (6).
Likewise, Italian engineer Renato Vesco worked with Germans while
at a secret division of Fiat housed in an underground facility on
Lake Garda, right in the middle of the proposed Alpenfestung.
After the war, Vesco also researched British Intelligence data.
This data was volumnous. Of course, Vesco knew what to look for
based upon what he had learned while working in a secret Axis
underground facility. Vesco is an example of category three and
the next one, category four.
Category four involves intelligence information obtained from
governmental sources. This information mostly comes from the
very entities who are trying to suppress this information. It
should always be suspect. It should be used only to verify
information obtained from higher sources (categories 1 through 3)
or from governmental sources of another government. For
instance, information concerning flying objects which Renato
Vesco called "Fireballs" was verified using information obtained
from the U.S. government under laws forcing it to divulge some
types of information (Freedom Of Information Act) (7).
Category five would include, for instance, Callum Coats whom
spent three years with mathematician and physicist, Walter
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