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84 The Guru and the Disciple Dadashri: Yes, if the guru is living and present, then you will be able to do purusharth right away. The Antaryaami (inner guru) will give you a great deal of guidance; that state is very high. It is very difficult for the inner guru; the Self to manifest. The external guru will help you more. Otherwise make your Self your guru; it is called ‘Shuddhatma’. You tell him, “O Shuddhatma Bhagwan, you guide me,” and He will. Who does not need a guru? Questioner: If we become exactly Self-realized from You, then we do not need a guru do we? Dadashri: Then you do not need a guru. Who does not need a guru? A Gnani Purush such as me, has no need for a guru. The One who can ‘see’ absolutely all his mistakes does not need a guru. Questioner: To keep continuous awareness in the Gnan that You have given us, do we need the guru’s satsang or his presence or proximity? Dadashri: Yes, all that is necessary. You need to follow the five Agnas. Everything is necessary. Questioner: Then the guru is necessary, is he not? Dadashri: The guru is not necessary. Who is the guru when you become the sadhya (i.e. when you become that which you worship, the Self). A sadhak (the one who worships, seeks) has a guru. I have sixty thousand people as mahatmas. They do not need to have a guru. Questioner: Do they need satsang? Dadashri: Yes, they need satsang and thereafter they need to follow the five Agnas.