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The Guru and the Disciple
Dadashri: Yes, if the guru is living and present, then you
will be able to do purusharth right away. The Antaryaami (inner
guru) will give you a great deal of guidance; that state is very high.
It is very difficult for the inner guru; the Self to manifest. The external
guru will help you more.
Otherwise make your Self your guru; it is called
‘Shuddhatma’. You tell him, “O Shuddhatma Bhagwan, you guide
me,” and He will.
Who does not need a guru?
Questioner: If we become exactly Self-realized from You,
then we do not need a guru do we?
Dadashri: Then you do not need a guru. Who does not
need a guru? A Gnani Purush such as me, has no need for a guru.
The One who can ‘see’ absolutely all his mistakes does not need
a guru.
Questioner: To keep continuous awareness in the Gnan
that You have given us, do we need the guru’s satsang or his
presence or proximity?
Dadashri: Yes, all that is necessary. You need to follow
the five Agnas. Everything is necessary.
Questioner: Then the guru is necessary, is he not?
Dadashri: The guru is not necessary. Who is the guru when
you become the sadhya (i.e. when you become that which you
worship, the Self). A sadhak (the one who worships, seeks) has
a guru. I have sixty thousand people as mahatmas. They do not
need to have a guru.
Questioner: Do they need satsang?
Dadashri: Yes, they need satsang and thereafter they need
to follow the five Agnas.