The Guru and the Disciple
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whose ego has gone. Only then will the ego go away. It is not a
guru’s job to destroy the ego; it is a task for the Gnani. Where
would the guru get that kind of knowledge? His own ego has not
left. When even his ‘my-ness’ (mamata) has not left him, how
and when will his ego go? When he meets the Gnani Purush, in
whom there is no trace of buddhi (intellect), only in front of such
a Gnani will the ego leave.
Questioner: Can charging of karmas be destroyed in this
time cycle of Kaliyug through the guru?
Dadashri: They cannot be destroyed by the guru; for that
we need a Gnani Purush; a Bheda-Vignani (spiritual scientist who
can separate Self and the non-self)! A Bheda-Vignani in whom
there is no ego or intellect. Such a person can destroy your karma.
And since the guru has an ego, nothing like this can be accomplished
by him.
Questioner: Even the scriptures say, know that which is
gurugamya - know the gnan that has manifested within the guru.
Dadashri: Yes, but what do we mean by gurugamya? It
is only gurugamya when you can ‘see’ the Soul, otherwise many
are wandering around with gurugamya. Gurugamya is only worth
it if it allows you the experience of your real Self. Such a person is
beyond all agamas (Jain scriptures), if you find such a Gnani
Purush, then you will attain gurugamya.
The gurumantra will not allow you to slip!
Questioner: In every religion, the guru gives every disciple
a gurumantra (a mantra given by the guru). What is that?
Dadashri: It is done so that people will not fall or slip
(spiritually or religiously). If a disciple hangs on to the gurumantra,
then he will not slip, but it has nothing to do with moksha.
Questioner: If a guru gives namsmaran (chanting of a
particular name), is that not better than the namsmaran given by