20 The Guru and the Disciple
Questioner : Then what do the scriptures mean when they say that no one can do anything for anyone ?
Dadashri : That is a different discussion . The scriptures mean to say something else , but people have interpreted it a different way . People take by mouth , a medicine that is meant to be applied topically , and so they die ! So what can anyone do ? How can we blame the doctor ?
If indeed it were true that one person cannot do anything for another , then all the lawyers and attorneys would be out of commission ! Doctors would be of no use ! Wives would be useless . All these people help each other .
Questioner : So in which context is the sentence “ No one can do anything for anyone else ,” written ?
Dadashri : It is applicable in nischay ( from the real perspective ). It is not applicable to the worldly life . In the worldly life there is give and take with everyone and in nischay ( spirituality ) no one person can do anything for another . ‘ One element ( tattva ) does not help another element ’ is also applicable to nischay – the vision of the self . However , in the worldly life everything can be done . Incorrect statements have been given to the public and consequently it has done a lot of damage .
Questioner : That is what I am trying to understand .
Dadashri : As far as elements are concerned , no one element ( tattva ) can help or hurt another element . The elements cannot mix with each other . This is what that statement means , but people have taken these statements and applied them to the worldly life . If you look at it , as far as the worldly life ( vyavahar ) is concerned , one cannot do without even a wife . In the worldly life people cannot do without wives or husbands . The entire worldly life is nothing but dependency . But , as far as the Self ( nischay ) is concerned , everything is completely independent . The Soul is completely independent . But what happens when you take that