20 The Guru and the Disciple
Questioner: Then what do the scriptures mean when they say that no one can do anything for anyone?
Dadashri: That is a different discussion. The scriptures mean to say something else, but people have interpreted it a different way. People take by mouth, a medicine that is meant to be applied topically, and so they die! So what can anyone do? How can we blame the doctor?
If indeed it were true that one person cannot do anything for another, then all the lawyers and attorneys would be out of commission! Doctors would be of no use! Wives would be useless. All these people help each other.
Questioner: So in which context is the sentence“ No one can do anything for anyone else,” written?
Dadashri: It is applicable in nischay( from the real perspective). It is not applicable to the worldly life. In the worldly life there is give and take with everyone and in nischay( spirituality) no one person can do anything for another.‘ One element( tattva) does not help another element’ is also applicable to nischay – the vision of the self. However, in the worldly life everything can be done. Incorrect statements have been given to the public and consequently it has done a lot of damage.
Questioner: That is what I am trying to understand.
Dadashri: As far as elements are concerned, no one element( tattva) can help or hurt another element. The elements cannot mix with each other. This is what that statement means, but people have taken these statements and applied them to the worldly life. If you look at it, as far as the worldly life( vyavahar) is concerned, one cannot do without even a wife. In the worldly life people cannot do without wives or husbands. The entire worldly life is nothing but dependency. But, as far as the Self( nischay) is concerned, everything is completely independent. The Soul is completely independent. But what happens when you take that