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The Guru and the Disciple
better, at least I do not have to bow down to them the way I have
to you. Say something that will produce some kind of results within,
so that my chit (the inner component that knows and sees worldly
events and objects) will remain in it.’ What do they say? They tell
us, ‘Do this, do this, and do this.’ What will I do with this ‘do
this’? I cannot do it and you keep telling me to do it. You need
energy in your words. One is considered a guru when his words
have some effect on the other person; otherwise, he is not even a
guru. The Gnani Purush will give you moksha but when is one
considered a guru? It is when he has vachanbud (energy in words)
and there is no deceit or lying in his words. Do you understand
what I am saying?
Questioner: Yes, yes.
Dadashri: These talks are very profound. How are people
to understand this? These businesses (guru-disciple exploitation)
will continue to run. Let them run. Why should we meddle in them?
They run because of the current time cycle.
Otherwise, books say the same thing you (the guru) are
saying. So what is the difference between you and the book? If as
a living person you cannot do anything, then this book is better.
Should there not be at least some energy there? There may not be
the energy to liberate, but should there not be the energy for
improved worldly interaction? Show us something that will give
us peace in this worldly life. Peace will come to us if you yourself
are at peace. How can we have peace when you do not have it?
No one knows the method
A guru will tell you to be moral and sincere. Hey! Why
don’t you become moral first? If you become moral yourself, there
will be no need to tell me to become so. If you tell me this after
you become moral yourself, then I too will become moral. I will
become moral just by looking at you. We become what we see,
but the guru himself has not become moral yet.