Church Executive SEPT / OCT 2019 DIGITAL ISSUE | Page 11

MISSION: ACCOMPLISHED JOEL GUTHRIE / HOST, THE CHURCH ENGAGEMENT PODCAST / CONTENT MARKETER / WORSHIP LEADER / YOUTH LEADER / AUSTIN, TEXAS From social media best practices, to using tech to help increase small group attendance, and everything in between, The Church Engagement Podcast [ faith.blackbaud.com/the-church-engagement-podcast ] aims to ensure technology makes it easy for congregations and communities to get involved and find opportunities to engage with their churches. The podcast, which is sponsored by Blackbaud, the world's leading software company powering social good, went live in spring 2019. As Senior Content Marketing Manager, Faith Solutions, at Blackbaud, Guthrie knows the market for long-form content for church leaders is “crazy oversaturated,” from eBooks to actual books, to presentations, to lengthy podcasts. “We were trying to figure out where we could fit in in the space and be a valuable addition to the content they're already consuming,” he explains. “That's where the idea for a short-form podcast came to be.” So, from the beginning, The Church Engagement Podcast has done things differently — offering content that church leaders can digest easily, quickly, and use right away. But why tech? (And why Joel?) For many pastors, the topic of tech can be intimidating, especially when they’re already always strapped for time. As Guthrie acknowledges, the last thing a church leader needs is one more tech to-do beating down his door: “They're being bombarded with, ‘You need technology.’ ‘You need to be using social.’ ‘You need to be livestreaming now.’ ‘You need to have another campus.’” Given his own background and experience in church leadership and development — as well as in tech marketing — he is all-too-familiar with this pressure-meets-time-crunch dynamic. This awareness, in fact, is what informs the direction, content (and even the guests) on the podcast. For one thing, each episode is short enough to listen to during a pastor’s morning commute or as he makes coffee. Most are 10 to 15 minutes long. This is possible, Guthrie says, because the podcast spends less time talking about the ‘why’ than the ‘how.’ “We give listeners super actionable steps,” he explains. “So, if they’re driving to the office, they can put those steps into practice when they arrive. We try to stay super tangible.” In terms of content, Guthrie aims to keep the podcast applicable and dynamic, for churches of all sizes. By this, he means that some listeners have the budget and staff to execute on what they learn at their churches. They primarily want to know how they can help their teams be even more effective. On the other end of the spectrum, some pastors represent smaller churches, where they’re doing everything. “So, they’re not looking for another task — they're looking at how can they be more efficient with the time they do have.” Personally, as the son of church planters and elders, Guthrie has observed both types of roles up close. “I think it's just understanding the unique issues and nuances that come with church leadership, and then being able to take that knowledge and pair it with technological best practice knowledge that I've learned from helping these large organizations — the frontrunners of innovation in the world, and in technology. I like to be able to say, ‘Hey, this is how a church could use this technology and put it into church leadership language.” Doing otherwise, he points out, runs the risk of sounding too corporate for most church leaders. This is critical because, as Guthrie explains, the church tends to be a few years behind on technology and tech marketing best practices. With his unique, feet-in-both-worlds perspective, he’s able to see the opportunities in tech that might have not found their foothold in the church space (yet). For this reason, he says, many of the initial podcast topics are very market- focused, “because that's my bread and butter in my day-to-day job, as well.” To drive these points home, Guthrie calls upon his relationships with other pastors, people he’s met at conferences and events, and more. For example, a summer podcast with Nona Jones — head of Faith Communities at Facebook — drills down on using Facebook groups to grow your church. “We find church leaders who want to innovate and are in the church space testing and trying things. They’re not afraid to sail with technology — to see how we can use these trends to grow and engage our church beyond the Sunday service.” — Joel Guthrie An important tool takes shape The guests on the podcast share this passion for growing the church with technology. “We find church leaders who want to innovate and are in the church space testing and trying things,” Guthrie says. “They’re not afraid to sail with technology — to see how we can use these trends to grow and engage our church beyond the Sunday service.” CHURCH EXECUTIVE.COM | 11