Budo international Martial Arts Magazine Jul.-Aug. 2014 | Page 253

Interview with somebody else, but things didn’t turn out the way I’d thought. I don’t think he ever got to grips with not being influenced by me. He wasn’t capable of being the president he should have been, a president who supported the WKF President because he was Spanish. There was a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde aspect to him that always held him back. He never forgave me for some things that were really down to his own incapacity.” What was the origin of his insecurity or becoming distanced from you? “Well, we once went on a trip to Andorra together and on the way back he asked me what I thought about him standing as a member of the WKF Executive Committee. This was obviously the wrong question to ask. When a question only has one possible answer, it’s the wrong question. I told him I thought it was fine. What else was I supposed to say? If I’d said no because had no chance of turning against me or not standing and then resenting me for the rest of his life. Who am I to say no to him? I said, organise a campaign. Work on it. It’s not easy because I’ve got my people and I’m not going to withdraw my support from somebody to give it to you. Don’t put me in that position with my own people.” When was that? “It was around 2000 or 2001. Then, in 2002, when the World Championships were organised in Madrid, he stood as a member for the EC and lost. He wasn’t elected. He took it badly and blamed me. He led me responsible. I was happy to appoint him as representative of the European Federation. I did it in a moment of weakness and he never even thanked me for it. He was there for four years as a co-opted member appointed by me. As the President of the European Federation I was entitled to sit on the EC, but I was already there as President of the WKF, so I could appoint someone else and I appointed him. He never thanked me for that. Then, in Tampere, he stood for the EC again without telling me in advance and he lost again. After that he saw me as some sort of horned devil. It’s a pity, because the last few years were really quite unpleasant. He even told me that he’d lost for a second time but he wanted to be on the EC and that I should do whatever it took to get him there.” So what did you do then? “Well, it was like this. Back then the WKF shared offices with the Spanish Federation, on Francisco de Sales street. We even shared some of the secretarial staff. Things were different back then. He told me that he was the president of the Ibero-American Federation and as such I had to get him on the WKF Executive Committee. I explained to him that the Ibero-American was Left: Alejandro Blanco, COE president; Antonio Espinós, WKF President, and Antonio Moreno, RFEK President, during Guadalajara World Championships, 2013. Center: The World President in the Tribute to the Master Yasunari Ishimi. Right: Salvador Herráiz, Antonio Espinós and Antonio Moreno during the WKF World Congress 2012, in Paris.