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Questioner : What are the four degrees that you speak
of?
Dadashri : Whatever you see; the attachment to worldly
things in my conduct that you see. It is irrelevant that I am really
unattached from within. These degrees are automatically deducted
when others see imperfection in me. I have seen the universe as
it is, understood, but not known and experienced it as is needed
in absolute enlightenment.
Questioner : How can one tell the difference between
understanding and experience?
Dadashri : It has come into my vision and understanding
but not yet in my knowledge and experience. It would have
been total enlightenment had it come into my experience and
knowledge. But because it is only in my understanding, it is
called absolute understanding or darshan.
Questioner : I do not understand what you mean when
you say that you came to understand it but you do not know
and experience it.
Dadashri : What is this world? How did it come about?
How did the mind arise? Who is the ‘father’ and who is the
‘mother’ of the mind? What is intellect? What is ego? What is
chit? Why are people born? Who runs this world? Does God
or someone else run this world? Who are you? Who am I?, all
this has come into my exact understanding. And furthermore
with my divine inner vision I see the Soul everywhere, in every
creature. All this has come in my understanding and that is why
it is called keval darshan, absolute understanding.
It is The Taped Record That Speaks
Dadashri : Who is talking to you? Who is doing the
talking?