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I think a lot of people do forget the fact that none of these records were made for the intention to go to the charts. They were made solely for the club, they were club records that became so popular from the underground and the guys that actually listen to underground music and then they've crossed over. Breach, there was no way that anybody thought that the record was going to do what it's done. But it did, you can't help it some of the time. When people hear it first and foremost in the industry, they're not going to turn round and say that record is going to set the charts. It's a bass-heavy, underground club music. But you hear it so much over the radio then all of a sudden it's big. You can't predict certain things and popular music, whether it's from the underground or not, will always do that journey. That's what records have done over the test of time.
How long do you see this phase carrying on?
I don't know, I think it's got legs. It's a whole new scene, the EDM world has had it's moment and that big synthy sound, maybe people get bored of it. Maybe it's just done what it's done as a whole new resurgence of House music coming through. You can't predict it, I think it will last long.
I've put a prediction of 2/3 years, the commercial side will disappear. We'll still naturaly find, for instance with UK Garage DJ EZ is still credible. You'll still find a few of those who are able to continue to push that sound. In general I think that it will phase off and the mainstream will find a new popular sound. Anything that hits the charts now is pop music. Pop music is any form of music that becomes popular. Underground music is always underground, whereas when you see the German & European sound, it's going back to that natural groove sound. I believe that those people who are actually there for the House and Techno music, naturally end up falling back to that compared to those that are just there because it's popular music. A lot of people you'd find raving at Ministry, you wouldn't find them raving at Warehouse in East London.
Popular music does open up to a different market and I think that the crowds in the last few years have changed. House is the popular sound at the minute, it is getting slightly saturated because everybody is trying to do it. But what you do find is the quality tracks that are out, they do stay around. It's a shame as you said with Ministry, sometimes you get half the crowd know what they're there for, the other half not so much - they're there because it's a popular sound. But that's how every scene starts, I don't always understand when people call certain music underground because underground to me is the very start of a new scene.
In terms of underground, I've said to people if you want to go to an underground party in London, you have to go to a party where not much people know about it or it's literally full of foreigners. The reason why I say that is because