504 Aptavani-9
Questioner: But the path to liberation is not to be found where there are sectarian divisions( gachha), is it?
Dadashri: Yes, when there is a sect; that is the end of it. But people create such divisions:‘ this is mine, mine is different and their’ s is different’.
Questioner: Then he is bound to fall.
Dadashri: He has already fallen. He falls from the moment he moves away.
Speech without ownership is the sign of the Gnani
Entire‘ I-ness’( potapanu) gradually melts down to zero after attaining Gnan. One is considered a Gnani when it goes down to zero. Then his speech( vani) will change. Vani flows only after potapanu leaves. By whatever proportion the‘ I-ness’ goes away, that much speech will arise, and that speech is correct. Until then all speech is wrong. Elsewhere, except for those who have taken our Gnan, there is a presence of‘ I-ness’ whenever people speak. Such speech will not have any effect; it will blow away in the wind. That is not speech; it is all relative. As for our mahatmas, they are to speak only after their‘ I-ness’ is gone, otherwise they are not to speak.
Moreover can any mahatma who has taken Gnan speak even a single sentence that is his own and stand independently? No. This is the sign that no one has attained the‘ main’ thing yet. No one has attained the absolute state yet. He cannot speak even a single sentence; if he did, I would be astonished. I would say,‘ that is enough proof!’ I would realize that it is amazing if I were to hear even a single sentence! But it is not possible, is it? How can he utter even a single sentence? How can vani( speech) flow? How can the speech without ownership flow?
Questioner: It would be more than enough if one were to methodically say exactly what you say.