Aptavani-9
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Questioner: It means smallest of the small but can we
call it the best of all?
Dadashri: No, not the best. Laghutam! It is not the best
from this perspective. Laghu means small. Laghutam means
the smallest; there is no living being (jiva) smaller than the one
who is laghutam. That is the definition of laghutam.
Questioner: Is it the same as when people say, ‘I am
dasanudas – I am the servant of servants’ – the humble most?
Dadashri: No. People have reached a state of being a
servant of servants (dasanudas) but no one has reached the
state of laghutam. Whereas I am in a laghutam state and that
is why people will attain salvation. In the worldly sense, from the
relative perspective, I am laghutam and in nischaya – from the
real or absolute perspective, I am gurutam. I am nobody’s
guru. I consider the whole world as being my guru. I consider
you all, my guru. If I am sitting on the floor here, someone will
ask, ‘Why are you sitting here?’ People will not let me sit on the
floor. They will make me get up and sit higher up. Otherwise, I
prefer sitting down on the floor. Therefore, I am not in a state
of being a superior (gurupad), I am laghutam.
Laghutam must be your intent
So I am not your superior. You are my superior. I have
never thought myself as being superior, so you do not have a
problem do you? You will be afraid of me only if I was superior
to you, you may feel ‘He is a big man, what will he say?’ You
may scold me but I will not scold you. If I scold you then it
means I am in the wrong place. And if you scold me, it is
because of a misunderstanding on your part. You do it because
there is weakness in you, is that not so? Otherwise, the whole
world is my superior because I am laghutam. How many
superiors do you have? Why don’t you say something?
Questioner: I am not ready to accept laghutam.