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shameless and brazen. Once that happens, he crosses the
boundary.
Questioner: But is there a part of the ego in swamaan?
Dadashri: Let it be; there is ego there for sure but at
least he will not become shameless. Because of the swamaan,
he will remain within the boundary; he will never cross that line.
Therefore swamaan is needed even in worldly interaction in the
absence of Self-realization.
Questioner: Now everyone has swamaan. So should
we not keep ours too?
Dadashri: Why should You keep your swamaan now
that You have attained this Gnan? Now there is no swamaan.
Questioner: But under certain circumstances if something
happens, should we not maintain our swamaan?
Dadashri: But now we all have nothing to do with
swamaan. Pride and limits of pride are all gone. It is like this,
if the ‘swa’ (the self) has not changed, then one must maintain
swamaan. Chandulal has to maintain his boundaries swamaan,
not You. Now, for you the ‘swa’ has changed. The self is no
longer Chandulal. You are the Self. Do you understand this?
Questioner: But should one not keep a ‘dramatic’
swamaan?
Dadashri: That will be there. Whatever there is, it is
good. But there is no need to keep swamaan. Why would you
want to start such new business?
Swamaan means ‘I am Chandulal’ and to maintain the
boundary of that pride and respect. But that is as long as you
are ‘Chandulal’, and now that You are a Shuddhatma, where is
the need for such a discussion? After this Gnan, one has become
the Self. Then where is the place for swamaan? Swamaan is
the pride of ‘I am Chandulal; I am the body’. But now that