Aptavani-9
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Questioner: Does that ‘hum’ ever go away; is there any
solution for it?
Dadashri: There is no solution for it. He will go to a
lower life form and take continuous beating there. That is where
the ‘hum’ will be crushed.
When does ‘hum’ sprout? It starts when he becomes
bankrupt everywhere. What then does he live on? Then comes
this hum of ‘my Grandfather was so and so…’ Thus begins the
hum.
Hum—‘I am something great’ is born when there is
nothing there. Whereas the condition that gave rise to the ego is
still there. Now, when does the ego go down? It goes down
when a thug mugs him and takes away his clothes, that is when
his ego will go away!
Questioner: Is this discussion for those who are not Self-
realized?
Dadashri: It is for the one who is not Self-realized. In
Gnan, there is no ego. The ego does not decrease or leave in
the one who has ego (those who are not Self-realized). Such a
person will encounter people who will increase his ego. The ego
will decrease from incidents such as if someone were to rob him
or beat him up or even if he incurs a loss of 1.5 million rupees
when his income is only a million rupees.
Questioner: But then the ego will go in another corner,
will it not?
Dadashri: No, it will go down; it will not increase. Ego
and mamata (‘my-ness’) are naturally attained things; they are not
created. This hum of ‘I am something great’ is a created thing.
Ego, pride and pride with ‘my-ness’
(ahamkar, maan and abhimaan)
Questioner: What is the difference between ego