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such words. But when such words do come out, does it not
mean both internal and external asaiyam (expression of
kashaya) has occurred? There is no benefit in that is there?
Dadashri: The first saiyam (absence of kashayas) within
is, ‘No. This should not be so. Why does this happen?’ That is
the first saiyam. However, this saiyam must commence. This
verily is the true saiyam. Then the last saiyam will come
gradually.
Questioner: Sometimes when I am insulted in such a
manner, the attack of the mind continues, although it may not
manifest in speech.
Dadashri: We are not concerned with whatever happens
at that time. Even if it ends up in a physical attack, the worldly
interaction (vyavahar) is dependant upon whatever energy
(shakti) exists within. The one in whom the shakti has
manifested completely, his attack from even the mind will cease.
Still what do ‘we’ say? You simply have to do pratikraman if an
attack from the mind or speech occurs, or even if a physical
attack occurs. Do pratikraman if the weakness of all three kinds
of attacks arises.
Questioner: Say if someone insults me and my pride is
hurt so badly that a tragu (state of severe obstinacy) arises
within me, but only against myself, how far will I fall? In other
words, I do not follow your instructions about how to deal with
the insult.
Dadashri: One has already fallen, has he not? The fact
that obstinacy arises is the fall in itself. Severe obstinacy (tragu)
is the greatest danger. One has fallen completely; he cannot go
down any further.
The fear of being insulted is beggary
(bheekh) of pride
What do ‘we’ say? It is not a problem if you do not like