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is a tuber of intense greed within! This intense greed (lalacha)
will not allow the Gnan to give result. That is why the scriptures
say a covetous person (lalachu) gradually works his way down
to hell. He will not leave anything alone.
Questioner: Is it possible to remain as the knower-seer
(gnata-drashta) of intense greed (lalacha) after attaining
Gnan?
Dadashri: No. When the time comes, temptation arises
and the intense greed (lalacha) will drag him there and make
him slip. The place where he ‘slips’ is where he loses
awareness. In all other matters he remains very aware, but
during situations, which cause him to slip, he is not able to
maintain awareness.
Questioner: But Dada, he has attained the state of
Shuddhatma. So does He (the Self), not keep ‘seeing’ that?
Dadashri: But he is not able to ‘see’ in situations where
he slips. He sees everywhere else but not there. And he slips
because of intense greed lalacha.
Questioner: Does he slip because he does not remain in
the Gnani’s Agnas at that time?
Dadashri: It is because of intense greed that he cannot
remain in the Gnani’s Agnas. Because of the lalacha he
becomes the self, i.e. he becomes absorbed with the relative-self
(Chandulal). Therefore, he needs to make a great purusharth
(effort) there.
Questioner: Will his intense greed (lalacha) go if he
takes Gnan again?
Dadashri: No it will not. Is it going to go away just by
sitting in the Gnan Vidhi? It will happen only when he makes an
effort to abide by the Agnas and he makes a firm decision to
constantly abide by them. If he breaches the Agna then he must
do pratikraman for it, then he will make progress.