Aptavani-9
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Dadashri: Yes, ‘we’ had deliberately done the tragu and
she did the tragu according to her karma. ‘We’ did it on
purpose, all the while remaining in the Gnan. There were five or
ten mahatmas sitting there, one of them told me, ‘How can you
do something like this?’ so ‘we’ replied, ‘Learn, Let me teach
you. Just sit there quietly. ‘We’ are teaching you a lesson. What
method will you employ when your wife causes problems for
you at home?’
Questioner: You said that you did it while remaining in
Gnan. Can you tell us how to remain in Gnan while doing it?
Dadashri: Just by this Gnan; the Gnan that ‘Ambalal is
the doer’. Is the Gnan married to Hiraba? Besides, just look
how we (Dada and Hiraba) spent all the years without matbhed
(separation due to differences in opinion). Even now, ‘we’ stop
any separation due to differences of opinion even before they
arise. Later Hiraba even took Gnan again. Then ‘Dada’ came
into her dream.
Otherwise, ‘we’ have not been ill-at-ease with anyone for
the past forty years. ‘We’ have not raised our voice or been
irritated with anyone for forty years! People too recognize and
understood this. They even say that I am like God.
Tragu, is an art too
Tragu is an art; it is one of the seventy-two arts.
Questioner: Is stealing also not an art (kada)?
Dadashri: Yes, that is also an art but all these arts that
one has acquired (from past life) are what create problems in
this life.
Questioner: Where does one learn the art of tragu?
Dadashri: The soul has all kinds of energies. When a
person decides, ‘I will get what I want through scaring others’,