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rule for the population to increase and decrease. The world is
such that it just goes on increasing and decreasing! Now the
population will decrease again.
Questioner: Will those living beings (jiva) live again?
Dadashri: After living, are those living beings going to
die? They all went back to the animal form, to the same place
they had come from.
After death, the Atma of the one heading for the celestial
realm (deva gati), goes to the celestial realm, and the one that
is heading towards the infernal realm (nark gati), travels to the
infernal realm. Some go into the animal kingdom (jaanvar gati),
and if it is to be reborn as a human, it will go into the human
realm (manushya gati). And there are many souls (jiva), who
receive a punishment, as a result of their unfolding karma,
whereby for two or three years, they are doomed to wander
around in a form without a body; as evil spirit (pretayoni).
So death is just like changing one’s clothes. Whatever
is physical just disappears, or else it gets left behind, while the
Atma receives another yoni (womb).
Questioner: How can one prove that after death, the
Atma went somewhere else? Is there any evidence?
Dadashri: Of reincarnation (punarjanma)!
Questioner: Yes. And is it something a person can believe?
Dadashri: Yes, ‘we’ (the Gnani Purush) will give you
proof so that you can believe that there is such a thing as rebirth
(punarjanma). It is quite a long evidence. People are bound to
ask for proof of whether there is rebirth, are they not?
How Long Will the Process of Rebirth Take?
Questioner: Who takes rebirth? Is it the living being (jiva)
or the Atma?