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within, while the old batteries are discharging. That is because of
one’s wrong belief. And so causes arise. As long as the wrong
belief exists, there will be attachment-abhorrence (raag-dwesh),
and causes will occur. And if the wrong belief changes and the
right belief is instilled, attachment and abhorrence and causes
will no longer arise.
Questioner: When the body dies, where does the Atma
go?
Dadashri: The way it is, is that the Atma is eternal, it is
permanent, it is forever. It does not have to come and go
anywhere. And when the body dies, the Atma does not have a
choice about where to go. Even that is in the control of scientific
circumstantial evidence (vyavasthit shakti). So wherever the
evidence takes it, it has to go. The only permanent thing in all
this is the Atma, everything else is temporary. The mind, intellect,
chit and ego are all temporary. And the Atma is such, that it is
completely separate from this body. Just as this cloth and my
body are separate, are they not? That is just how separate the
body and the Atma are; completely and utterly separate.
So Many Adjustments of Nature
Questioner: At the time of death, while leaving one body
and before entering another body, where and for how long and
how, does it exist? How long does it take the soul (jiva) to enter
a new body?
Dadashri: It hardly takes any time (samaya). It is here
in the body, while it is leaving this body; it is already present in
a womb (yoni) there. If the dying person is here in Baroda and
the womb is in Delhi, then it is in that womb (yoni), and it is also
here in the body. So there is no time lag in this. It cannot be
without a body even for an instant.
Questioner: So how much time does it take to leave one
body and acquire another body?