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Dadashri: No. If you move your hands around like this,
you would not catch anything in your hand. Even if you wave a
burning torch through it, it will not burn the Atma. And if you
move your hand through it, the Atma does not touch your hand.
That is what the Atma is like. If you rubbed ice over that Atma,
it would not turn cold, and if you put a sword through it, it will
not be cut.
Questioner: Should it not have some sort of form even
then?
Dadashri: It is a formless form (nirakari aakaar), a
flawless, formless form (niranjan nirakari-aakaar). Its form is
not what you imagine it to be. It has its own natural form.
Where in the Body Is the Soul Not Present?
Questioner: The Atma does not appear on an x-ray, nor
can it be captured in photography or any other way.
Dadashri: Yes, the Atma is very subtle (sookshma);
therefore it is not palpable! It cannot be caught on camera, nor
is it visible to the eyes. You cannot even see it through a
microscope, binoculars or any other instrument. You cannot see
it with anything; that is how subtle it is.
Questioner: So I wonder where the Atma could be.
Dadashri: Even if it were surrounded by flames, the flames
would not touch it. That is how subtle it is.
Questioner: But where is it located in the body?
Dadashri: The question is, where is the Atma not located
in the body? The Atma is not in the hair, and in the nails; it is
not in the part of the nail that we clip. Everywhere else in the
body, there is Atma. So you do not have to ask, where the
Atma is in the body, but you need to ask, where in the body the
Atma is not.