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gets done. Therefore, you need to find out from the Gnani
Purush, who you are, and what is binding you.
They Are All Mechanical Adjustments
Questioner: Now, in the state where the vision is directed
internally (antarmukha) there is a voice that says, ‘What you
are doing is wrong’ and things like that. Is it Atma that is speaking
to us?
Dadashri: That cannot be the Atma; that is a tape record.
Just as there is this tape recorder on the outside, inside there is
an original tape record. Is that what you are calling the Atma?
Even prominent officers say, ‘It is my Atma speaking’. Goodness,
can that be the Atma? It is a tape record.
Questioner: If it is not the Atma talking, then who is the
one saying, ‘what you are doing is wrong’?
Dadashri: That is a tape record. The knowledge of
worldly interaction (vyavahar gnan) that you know, that
knowledge of worldly interaction, is not the Atma. It is
Knowledge of the Self (nischay Gnan), that is the Atma. The
worldly knowledge that you know, has been taped before and
that is the voice that you are hearing. And that is why it bothers
you that, ‘this is how it should be in the worldly interaction
(vyavahar), and I am doing something wrong’. So that cannot
be the Atma.
Moreover, the Atma does not speak; it does not eat. It
does not drink and it does not breath. That kind of worldly
interaction (vyavahar) is not the Atma. All these are not the
functions of the Atma. The Atma’s work is completely different.
The qualities of the Atma are different.
Just like the gold and copper in this ring, are mixed together,
and if you wanted to separate them, who would you give the
work to?