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Aptavani-8
Ultimately, Liberation Only Attained Through
Becoming Atmaroop
Questioner: It is also said that even if you think about the
Atma for just a minute, you can become free from the worldly
life (sansar).
Dadashri: If one becomes the form of the Self
(Atmaroop), it is possible to become free from the worldly life
(sansar). However, if one thinks about things related to the
Atma, there can be no Atma there. Thinking is a way to go to
the Atma.
Questioner: But when the state of becoming the form of
the Self (Atmaroop) arises, can the illusion (bhrama) of the
worldly life (sansar) really break?
Dadashri: The illusion will go away gradually. But since
one has the old karmic account (hisaab), one will indeed be
overcome with illusion without fail. It will only work if a new
state of blocking the influx of karmic matter (samvar) occurs.
So if one becomes the Atma for just a minute, it would last
forever.
Questioner: Never mind a minute, it does not even last
forty-eight seconds.
Dadashri: It will not do, if it does not last!
Questioner: After forty-eight seconds, it disappears.
Dadashri: But if it flees, then it cannot be the Atma. The
Atma is something that does not go away. The Atma maintains
the same form, whenever you see it; it is always the same form.
Therefore, the Atma should appear as separate and all the rest
of this should appear as separate.
Questioner: I understand that, and I also experience it,
however the net of illusory attachment (mayavi jaad) is so