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are all natural (sahajik) things I am talking about. ‘We’ cannot
just refer to a single person. But you have to consider these
things. Besides, if you keep sitting at the Udhana railway station,
thinking that it is the last station in the western railway line, and
you believe that it has come to an end, are you likely to get
anywhere?
Questioner: But should you not have already decided
where you want to go?
Dadashri: Everyone knows that they want freedom
(mukti), and that they want liberation (moksha). They know it
as words. People know that they want to become the Atma.
But they have no idea where they are sitting! Should they not
know that or not? Would they not know where they are sitting?
That is why I have to be quite clear! If I did not say it clearly,
they would not get rid of their baggage, would they?
Therefore, we have to get to the bottom of this.
Furthermore, a person would not know by himself, which station
he is at. That only happens when the Gnani Purush tells him,
‘son, there are still many stations to go, do not just sit around
here needlessly, come and sit on any of these trains.’
Questioner: But Dada, what happens here, is that there
are many who tell you to sit on this train. So one sits on one and
then gets off again. This is the only problem that occurs.
Dadashri: That is the very business people have started.
They get on and get off, get on and get off!
Without The Gnani, Endless Efforts Are Futile
In order to cure the disease of the worldly life (sansar),
the entire world removes the leaves on the tree, or they cut the
leaves. In their minds, they believe that the tree will now dry up.
But after two months, it sprouts again, and they start fretting
once more. So many people cut the leaves off the trees. So
many people cut off large sprigs, and even then they get into a