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Aptavani-8
Otherwise, you have not entered spirituality (adhyatma) at all.
Then no matter how many books one reads, the spirituality will
not occur, even then. When one attains the enlightened vision
(samyak darshan), and one attains the vision (darshan) of as
it is; one enters spirituality. Therefore, when all those wrong
beliefs are “fractured”, the right belief sets in.
Questioner: What do I have to do for the right belief?
Do I have to keep saying, ‘I am not this body, I am not this
body’, for that?
Dadashri: No; that will not get you anywhere! If you did
that, you will go mad, and people will say, ‘If you are not the
body, then what are you?’ You do not have to do that. So many
people do that, and they have become crazy!
Questioner: So do I say, ‘I am an Atma’ then?
Dadashri: No, you cannot say that either. If a person, in
his sleep, says to you, ‘Wait a while, I want to come to the
cinema with you also.’ then would you not figure out, that after
half an hour, an hour of sitting there waiting, that he has not got
up. So would you not understand that he was talking in his
sleep? In the same way, what good is it if one says, ‘I am Atma,
I am Atma’, in one’s sleep?
Questioner: Should one not have the experience, ‘I am
Atma’?
Dadashri: Yes, you can have the experience! It is when
the Gnani Purush does it for you, that you will have the
experience.
Questioner: But if I wanted to have the experience of the
Atma by myself, how could I do it?
Dadashri: If I tell you how it is done, although it is fairly
simple, you will not be able to do it. At the present time, people’s
power of the mind (manobud) has broken down.