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in that? It is a tool (sadhan) for identification. Therefore, who
you are, is something you need to find out from the Gnani
Purush; it is something you must realize.
Have You Received Another’s Mail?
Dadashri: You certainly are convinced that, ‘I am
Chandubhai’!
Questioner: No, that is a name people commonly use.
However, ‘I am Atma’, that is all, nothing else.
Dadashri: Yes, you are Atma. But if someone swears
at Chandubhai, do you not accept his ‘mail’? If you do, then
you are Chandubhai. Then you cannot say that it is just what
people call you. When it is Chandubhai who gets sworn at,
why do you accept the mail? Therefore, you have become
Chandubhai.
Questioner: To live in interaction with the world
(vyavahar) you have to do everything.
Dadashri: No. You have to live in worldly interaction
(vyavahar). However, you are not supposed to accept
Chandubhai’s mail. You can say, ‘Dear man, this is Chandubhai’s
mail. I have no problems. You can swear as much as you like.’
But as it is, you live as Chandubhai. You take all of Chandubhai’s
winnings, and then you say, ‘I am Atma’. So would it be possible
to become the Atma, just like that?
Detachment to the Worldly Life Attained
With Grace
Dadashri: How can you become certain that you are
Atma?
Questioner: For that, we would go to a guru, such as
yourself, where we can discover how the body and the Atma
are separate, from the spiritual discourses that we have heard.
Besides, is there not a big difference between us and you? We,