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Aptavani-8
When two things come together, neither of them, relinquish
their own properties (gunas); however, this gives rise to an extra
property and trait (vishesh gunadharma). Now this is an extra
intent (vishesh bhaav). And it is that extra property (vishesh
gunadharma), that is the worldly life (sansar). Now if they had
the non-Self complex (pudgal) in the place of the Liberated
Souls (Siddha kshetra), then even there, the extra intent (vishesh
bhaav) would occur. But there is no pudgal over there!
Questioner: The Atma becomes bathed in the realm of
the Liberated Souls (Siddha gati), but are there not subatomic
particles of the non-Self complex (pudgal parmanus) on the
outside?
Dadashri: But they are outside the location of the
Liberated Souls (Siddha kshetra), meaning that they are only in
the lower part. They are in a state which does not affect the
Liberated Souls (Siddhas). The abode of the Liberated Souls
(Siddha kshetra) is situated in the middle of the worlds or
planes of existence (lok) and space beyond the worlds; the
limitless space (alok).
Questioner: Can the surrounding conditions or
circumstances of the abode of the Liberated Souls (Siddha
kshetra), affect other worlds or planes of existence (lokas)?
Dadashri: Not at all. What has effect got to do with
anything? There is no relation at all. And there is no effect of any
kind on the Siddhas.
Questioner: They may not be affected, but do they affect
the outside or not?
Dadashri: No. Nothing here is affected by them.
Nevertheless, it is our goal; that it is where we want to go!