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Aptavani-8
Dadashri: You can believe that, but along with it, do you
not also suffer unhappiness and pain (dukh)? So if the Atma
were the manifestation of the Absolute Soul (Parmatma), then
have you experienced unhappiness?
Questioner: Yes, I have experienced unhappiness (dukh).
Dadashri: Since you do experience unhappiness, you
will have to believe in all the numbers from one to hundred.
And if you do not experience unhappiness (dukh), then it is
fine if you do not believe in them. Otherwise, you will have to
believe in all the numbers from one to hundred: forty-five, then
forty-six should follow, and after forty-six, forty-seven should
follow. Everything will have to be methodical. No falsity and
no discrepancies. It may work everywhere else, but in science,
falsity will not work!
Questioner: So does it mean that the Atma is now a
separate element, since it has separated from the Absolute Soul
(Parmatma)?
Dadashri: Not separated; the Atma itself is the Absolute
Soul, and even the embodied soul (jivatma) is the Absolute
Soul (Parmatma). The difference only lies in the understanding.
When he is at home, they will say, ‘He is this woman’s husband.’
And when he goes to the shop, they say, ‘He is the boss.’ When
he goes to court, they will say, ‘He is the lawyer.’ But he himself
is the same person. Therefore, it is the same embodied soul
(jivatma); the same interim state Soul (antaratma); and the
same Absolute Soul (Parmatma)! And each one is ascribed an
adjective according to the work that it performs.
There Is No Merging of Souls
Questioner: So is it true that the Atma really does merge
into the Absolute Soul (Parmatma), if not in one avatar
(lifetime), then perhaps in the next avatar or even in the third
avatar?