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Questioner: And if the veil of ignorance (avaran) is lifted,
then does it become the Absolute Soul (Parmatma)?
Dadashri: But the veil (avaran) will not lift on its own!
First one’s vision (drashti) changes. What is the vision like right
now? Your vision is on this side; therefore, you only see what is
on this side. Is your vision (drashti) not just, ‘I am Chandubhai’?
Or do you have some other vision (drashti)?
Questioner: I am Atma too!
Dadashri: No, but right now, you accept letters under
the name of Chandubhai, do you not? If someone were to swear
at you, right now, would it affect you?
Questioner: Yes, it would.
Dadashri: If you were the Atma, then it would not affect
you. Therefore, you are Chandubhai. Now there is nothing wrong
in saying ‘I am Chandubhai’, even I agree that, ‘I am A. M.
Patel.’ However, I do not have the belief, that ‘I am A. M.
Patel.’ You though, have the belief, ‘I am Chandubhai.’
A man was telling me, ‘Only the Vedanta has said that
jiva and Brahma are one only. No one else knows that.’ I told
him, ‘Everyone knows that jiva and Brahma are one for sure.’
Do the elderly not say, ‘I am going to die. I will die, doctor.
Save me?’ When they think that they are dying, they are jiva.
Those who fear death, are all jiva. And when they no longer
have fear of dying, it means that the same living being (jiva) has
become God (Brahma)!
One Is Shiva, but Because of Illusion, One Is
Jiva
Questioner: Why did God (Brahma) have to become a
jiva (the self)?
Dadashri: You are truly the Atma (Shiva; Self)! But you