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it mean that he has to wander around for that many times again,
before he receives another human birth?
Dadashri: No, it is not like that. Once you attain a human
birth, you do not have to go through the cycle of 8,400,000
births again. However, if one’s thoughts are bestial, then he will
have to go take birth in the animal place of creation (yoni) for
eight lifetimes, and even they will last one or two hundred years.
One only returns back here again after that time. After becoming
human just once, one does not have to wander around too
much.
Questioner: Is it the same Atma, that goes around
8,400,000 births?
Dadashri: Yes, just the one Atma.
Questioner: But the Atma is pure, is it not?
Dadashri: The Atma is pure even now. It has stayed
pure in spite of its wanderings through 8,400,000 births (yoni)!
It has always remained pure and it will always remain pure.
Questioner: So then, what is the reason for its
wanderings?
Dadashri: The Atma has no reason; it is only in bliss.
The one who is in pain has the desire to get rid of the pain.
However, the Atma is blissful!
Illusion Creates Differences
Questioner: Why have differences (bhinnatva) arisen in
the world? If there were no differences, the Atma’s oneness
would have spread throughout the world. There is a difference
between happiness (sukh) and unhappiness (dukh), there is even
a difference between wealth and poverty. Why did this difference
come about?
Dadashri: Nothing like that has arisen, and nothing has