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Aptavani-6
Before you believed, ‘I am a jiva.’ That belief is now
fractured and now you know that, ‘I am shiva.’ Jiva will not let
go any of its nature and rights. But it may let go of everything
if you persuade it. Just as it is affected by bad company (kusang),
it will be affected by good company (satsang) too. Therefore,
it is so good that it will give up everything if persuaded! Now
what You have to do is sit Chandubhai down and talk to him.
Tell him, ‘At age of sixty-seven you have been attending satsang
and everything. You pay good attention to it. You are doing a
good job!’ Along with that, You also need to make him
understand and advise him, ‘Why do you care so much about
the physical body? Whatever happens in the body; let it. Why
don’t you come over on this side of the table with Me! You will
have endless bliss with Me.’ You need to say this to Chandubhai.
When you seat Chandubhai in front of a mirror, will You or will
You not see him exactly as he is?
Questioner: My internal conversation with him continues
for hours.
Dadashri: But while you are conversing with others, he
also has the other ‘phone, the k’s,’ the kashays within, that take
over. Hence you need to have him sit before a mirror and talk
to him loudly, so that he does not answer any other ‘lines.’
Questioner: How can ‘I’ make myself sit in front of the
mirror?
Dadashri: If you seat ‘Chandubhai’ in front of You and
keep scolding him, he will become wise. When you scold him
Yourself by saying, ‘Chandubhai, how can you do this? What
nonsense is this? Do something good now that you have started
to.’ What is wrong in saying this? Does it feel good having to
listen to someone else telling you off? That is why ‘we’ ask You
to scold Chandubhai, otherwise everything continues in ignorance.
What this pudgal is saying is ‘you became a Shuddhatma but
what about me?’ It is staking its claim; it has a right too. It also