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disappearing. I too have desires! If it is noon and I go to the
kitchen, would you not realize that Dada has a desire to eat
something? That is also a ‘setting’ desire; they are discharging,
dying desires. They will all leave after a while. They are not
considered ‘rising desires’; they are all going to end.
Questioner: When we have desires while we are working,
what kind of a ‘test’ should we ‘apply’ so that we can know
whether it is a ‘discharge desire’ or a ‘charge desire’?
Dadashri: It will be a charge desire only if You become
‘Chandulal.’ There is no need to be confused here. This is a
science! Our Akram Vignan science says, speak that which is
saidhantic, meaning speak that which has been proven and
established so that you will not have to tease and un-tease it
again. What is the use of repeated teasing and un-teasing?
Some people believe that the soul has desires. Then later
they say, ‘My desires have stopped!’ If desire is an attribute of
the Soul, then no one will be able to stop desires. This is an
extra result (vishesh parinaam) – it is an effect that came about
as a result of the ‘I’ having deviated from the original location,
from the Self to ‘I am Chandulal, the non-Self.’ In all this, the
Self is Vitarag – absolutely free of attachment. People are not
even aware of this and they say, ‘My soul has become bad, my
soul is a sinner (paapi); it does attachment-abhorrence (raag-
dwesh).’
Then there are some who say that the soul is pure. These
people take a beating in another way. They believe that the soul
is pure and, therefore, nothing needs to be done. So then, why
do they go to the temple? Why do they read scriptures? So
people holding both these views have lost the way and
consequently keep on wandering. The Soul is not like that. This
point is very profound. That is why the scriptures say, ‘Have the
knowledge of the Self.’ The Self verily is the parmatma, the
supreme Self!