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96 Aptavani-6 Questioner: Is there awareness of existence there? Dadashri: It is because it has awareness of its existence that there is so much suffering. Questioner: What is it like in hell? Dadashri: In hell, there is pain (dukh) of the five senses. The suffering and the miseries of the seventh hell (the lowest and worst level of the worlds that a soul may migrate to) are such that a person can even die upon hearing about them! There is tremendous pain there. The embodied beings (life forms) of undefined classification (avyavahar rashi) do not have such miseries; they have suffocation. The Right Intellect and Pragnya People consider intellect (buddhi) as being knowledge (Gnan). But buddhi is an indirect light, whereas Gnan is the direct light. Questioner: Where does intellect (buddhi) end and the liberating energy and light of the Self (pragnya) begin? Dadashri: Pragnya begins before the buddhi comes to an end. When one meets a Gnani Purush, the Gnani makes him attain the Self, which is when pragnya begins. This pragnya is the one that takes him to liberation/moksha – final liberation. Pragnya constantly cautions and alerts You, and the buddhi keeps interfering within. Questioner: But the intellect must have some positive function, surely? Dadashri: The only time the buddhi is in a positive mode is when it has been made intellect that is used for both the good of the self and the Self (samyak) by the Gnani Purush. To proceed according to one’s own understanding is called deluded intellect (viparit buddhi). That is also called contradictory intellect (vyabhicharini buddhi). The buddhi that the Gnani