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76 Aptavani-6 [9] Beginning of Kashay Questioner: I want to know about charge kashays and discharge kashays (kashays – inner hidden enemies of anger, pride, deceit and greed. Deluded behaviors that obstruct right knowledge and behavior and that perpetuate karma and involvement in the world.) Dadashri: The kashays that you are experiencing now, for example, if you become angry with someone, that is discharge kashay. But with that anger, if there is a presence of your belief (bhaav) of being the doer, then a new seed of ‘charge kashay’ is sown again. Questioner: During any discharge that occurs, is there also not a charge? Is cause karma (bhaav karma) also not in it? Dadashri: No. When the karma is discharging, the one who takes Gnan from ‘us’ can prevent the simultaneous charging that occurs. Then karma does not bind at all. Questioner: Is there some kind of a test for proving that something is a ‘charge’ and something else is a ‘discharge’? Dadashri: Yes, there is. You will know everything that happens. If a charge is taking place, then there is restlessness (ashanti) within; the bliss (samadhi) will break. And if there is no charging, then the samadhi will not leave. Questioner: Can anger occur despite being in samadhi? Dadashri: The anger that occurs is discharge anger, but