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Aptavani-6
Questioner: Does vyavasthit mean previously decided?
Is it predetermined?
Dadashri: Yes, it is predetermined. However, unless one
has complete Gnan, one cannot say, ‘It is vyavasthit.’ This
mind, body, speech are under the control of vyavasthit. The
raising of your arm, the thinking that occurs within, the inspiration
(prerana) that comes from within; all are under the control of
vyavasthit. ‘We’ are a pure Soul (Shuddhatma), and everything
else is under the control of vyavasthit. Therefore, You should
not interfere in it. You just have to keep ‘seeing’ whatever is
happening.
Questioner: So does the pure Soul (Shuddhatma) come
under the control of scientific circumstantial evidences
(vyavasthit) by that much?
Dadashri: No, the Shuddhatma is not in bondage
(bandhan). After becoming Shuddhatma, one needs to remain
as the knower-seer (gnata-drashta) only.
I am telling you all this, having reached the peak. Whatever
knowledge worldly people have given – some have given it
standing at the foothills of the mountain, some have climbed up
five feet – then they have spoken. Some have climbed ten feet
and then they have spoken. I have climbed so high that my neck
reaches over the top and I can see everything at the bottom,
whereas the Vitarag Lords, the fully enlightened Ones, have
stood on the top of the mountain and then they have spoken.
The absolute truth lies at the very top. There can be a slight
shortcoming in whatever I say because I am not able to see
everything on the top. The top, however, is a completely different
matter!
Questioner: Lord Mahavir said that karma cannot be
destroyed by any other individual. Is the Gnani included in that
too?