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Aptavani-5
to perform very lengthy penances (tapas) in order to get the
direct experience of the Self. Was this not the reason for it?
Dadashri: That was it. Nowadays one does not have to
do that much severe penance. Nowadays, even before striking
a match, there is spontaneous combustion! Why subject people
to penance when they are already suffering in agony? Alas! Poor
people are already roasting in the ‘fire pit’!
Inventions in Spiritualism
There is no need to bother with those who already have
a pure heart, and they are not likely to make much spiritual gain
either.
Questioner: So is there benefit for those who are
crooked?
Dadashri: It is beneficial only for those who are
crooked. I have seen many people with a clean heart, like this
man here. I tell them they are happy anyway so why should they
bother? I tell them that straightforward and good people like you
do not harm the world. But it will take them a very long time to
reach the state of the Self, because for them ‘invention’ (seeking
and searching) has halted. Their ‘engine’ runs slowly.
No one has ever said the things that I am saying.
Everyone says that only those with a clean heart will attain
religion and not anyone else. What I am saying is that as long
as the necessities of those with a clean heart are fulfilled, it is
enough. Their ‘invention’ (searching) stops then.
Questioner: But Dada, will it happen if there is a desire,
in their heart or in the intellect, to know more?
Dadashri: No, it will not happen even if there is a desire
to know (jignyasa). Only two to five people will come and they
will be reformed. Such persons help a handful who come; they
will serve other people, and the same time progress themselves.