Aptavani-5
195
Dadashri: The person you see in front of you is not
‘Dada Bhagwan’. The one that comes in your memory is the
real ‘Dada Bhagwan’. The one you see in front of you is ‘A. M.
Patel’ and the one sitting within A. M. Patel has manifested in
the form of the absolute Self (Parmatma) and that is ‘Dada
Bhagwan’.
Questioner: When is ‘Dada Bhagwan’ present?
Dadashri: He is always present. He is constantly present
in all these people.
Questioner: But why do they call you Dada Bhagwan?
Dadashri: Whom do you see when you say aapshri
(you)? Are you talking about the one you see? You only
recognize him, do you not? The person you see is a Patel from
the town of Bhadran and he runs a construction business. ‘Dada
Bhagwan’ is the Self (the Atma) that has manifested within.
People of the world refer to this as pragat Purush (manifested
Self).
Questioner: Man can never become God or Parmatma
(the absolute Self). And yet some people claim to be God;
they make claims about being and doing divine miracles, is that
right?
Dadashri: There is no need to make such claims. No
one can claim that he is Parmatma, and he is a fool if he does.
People call me Bhagwan (God) but whom can you call
Bhagwan? You can never call this body ‘Bhagwan’. This is A.
M. Patel. The entity that you can see is not ‘Dada Bhagwan’.
‘Dada Bhagwan’ is the one who has manifested within. How
can you call anyone with a body (dehdhari), Bhagwan?
Questioner: Is God (Bhagwan) in the form of an
individual entity, or energy (shakti)?
Dadashri: Both are true but a person benefits more if he