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any thoughts), many people too become this way. Once they
stop their thoughts then they do not have to worry about the
thoughts. Thus gradually, day-by-day, they become vichaar
shunya, which means they become like a stone. On the outside
they appear beautiful, they appear peaceful, but there is no
Gnan within.
Questioner: Many people think that nirvikalp means
nirvichaar.
Dadashri: Except for the Gnani, no one can have the
state of nirvikalp. Many can be nirvichaari. From the state of
having no thoughts they will have to work towards a state of
having thoughts again. Everything comes to a stand still when the
mind ceases to think. That is why Krupadudev Shrimad
Rajchandra has said, ‘Kar vichaar toh paam’ (Think so that
you can attain). Therefore thoughts will be needed right until the
end, till you attain the knowledge of the Self, and once you attain
that state there is no need for thoughts. Then thoughts become
gneya (that which is to be known), and You are the Gnata (the
Knower).
Questioner: When Lord Mahavir gave His last deshna
(speech that liberates one), did that mean He had thoughts at the
time?
Dadashri: Lord Mahavir too had thoughts until the end
but His thoughts were such that they came and went with each
samaya (smallest unit of time). That state can be called
nirvichaar. When you go to a wedding, people come to greet
you and then they move on to the next guest, don’t they?
Therefore one karma unfolds, its thought arises and leaves; then
another will arise, that thought will arise and leave. In this
manner karmas arise to give result and then dissipate. The Lord
would never get stuck in any thought. The tubers of His mind are
all gone and therefore His thoughts do not bother or harass Him.
Thoughts do not harass Me either.