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mothers, be a husband or a wife! Are these not benefits of the
ego? The whole world is enjoying the benefits of the ego. I am
enjoying the benefit of the Self, as the Self. This arises through
the Self, and that other arises through the ego.
Questioner: Liberation can be attained when illusion
(bhranti) goes away, right?
Dadashri: Yes, You ‘know’ everything ‘as it is’ when the
illusion (bhranti) goes away. When the illusion goes, the
ignorance (agnan) about the Self goes; when the ignorance
about the Self goes, the illusory attachment (maya) goes; and
when maya goes, the ego (ahamkar) goes; when the ego
comes down to zero, the solution comes.
Making Yourself Egoless Is Not Possible
Where there is no kind of business at all, that is the Self.
Questioner: Who makes all the efforts?
Dadashri: The ego does.
Questioner: Who becomes excited?
Dadashri: The external part of the ego becomes excited;
it is really a discharging component and egoism—‘I did it’ does
the charging.
Questioner: When will the absolute egoless state be
created?
Dadashri: What purpose do you have in creating that
state?
Questioner: I have come to know that there is no benefit
in the ego.
Dadashri: So will you get a superior result from being
egoless?
Questioner: Then the inner bliss of one’s Self will manifest.