70 Aptavani-5
experience of suffering( ashata-vedaniya) and at the same time nirakudata should also remain. You should remain the Knower of both. It is a mistake to become one( ekakar) with the shatavedaniya( the experience of pleasure).
Unfolding of Suffering Versus Awareness of Gnan
Questioner: Is there not sweetness in pleasurable experience( shata-vedaniya)?
Dadashri: There is sweetness in it but You should‘ know’ that. During that moment Gnan should be present that‘ this is shata-vedaniya( experience of pleasure) and this is nirakudata( absence of disturbance)’. When ashata-vedaniya arises You should remain the Knower of that too. On the outside there is experience of suffering of pain( ashata-vedaniya) and from within there is nirakudata.
To become happy or to become unhappy means you become the bhokta( the one experiencing). Karmas are bound in both; in becoming the‘ doer’( karta) and becoming the bhokta( the one experiencing) but no karmas are bound in being the Knower( Gnata). You simply have to be the Knower of‘ right now‘ Chandubhai’ is having the experience of pain or pleasure’. What is the point in‘ becoming’ happy or unhappy?
There is no problem whether death comes today or after twenty-five years.
Questioner: I do not have a fear of dying but I do have a fear of suffering pain during death.
Dadashri: What suffering? Questioner: Physical suffering( vyadhi). Dadashri: What is there to fear in that? Is it not