Aptavani-4
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Dadashri: It was taped in the past life and now it is being
played in this life.
Questioner: Is speech the sthool (tangible; overt) result
of sookshma (subtle)?
Dadashri: Yes, the subtle turned into the overt.
Questioner: Where did the subtle (sookshma) originate
in the first place?
Dadashri: Before that, the subtle (sookshma) again
arises from the overt (sthool). When it is sthool, on account of
attachment-abhorrence (raag-dwesh), once again a new subtle
(sookshma) one arises. If for just one lifetime, you manage to
remain vitarag (absence of attachment and abhorrence), the
whole process would end. But people just go on sowing those
seeds (through attachment-abhorrence).
Questioner: Wouldn’t you call the language that you are
speaking, a samadhi bhasha (language that gives inner stillness
and peace)?
Dadashri: If you want to call it a samadhi bhasha, then
you can call it a samadhi bhasha. If you want to call it
syadvaad, then it is syadvaad. ‘Our’ speech will never give
unhappiness to others; it renders happiness to all. ‘We’ do not
‘own’ this speech. Once the ego is completely gone, the
‘record’ is clean. My record (speech) became clear after Gnan
manifested in me.
Questioner: When can one say that his speech is a
record?
Dadashri: When you do not notice any like or dislike
(bhaav-abhaav) on the person’s face, ownership of the speech
has indeed been lost, and that is where your ‘end’ (liberation)
comes.