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bound. Even if you are arrested by the police, you will not feel
bound.
No Liberation Even in Heaven
Questioner: What do they mean when they say that
moksha is like attaining heaven, and to attain vaikunth (God’s
abode), is to merge with God?
Dadashri: There is no heaven, or any such place there.
Heaven means a place where you enjoy worldly happiness, and
hell is where you suffer worldly miseries. And in this middle
world (madhyalok; our galaxy) there is a ‘mixture’ of both
worldly happiness and suffering. Even in heaven there is
bondage. You will have to stay there even if you do not like it.
If you cannot get along with your spouse over there, you will still
have to live with them. It is because over there, lifespan cannot
be reduced.
For hundreds of thousands of past lifetimes the desire for
freedom has always been there in everyone’s vessel of intellect
(buddhi no ashaya), but they still cannot escape and they have
made vain efforts. No matter how hard you struggle, you are not
likely to find it. Even when a man tries to live without a wife and
children (tyaagi-renouncing the worldly life), he still gets
nowhere, so then in his next life, he becomes worldly (sansari).
He has tried all kinds of ways to find happiness. Whatever one
does in order to attain the nirvikalp (the state of the Self), it is
all vikalp (wrong belief) of vikalp (ego). These entanglements
are not easy to get rid of. If one’s entanglement of the married
life goes away, then entanglements of renouncing possess him;
there is worldly life there too, is it not?
You Don’t Want the Temporary Thing
What should one do for liberation (mukti)?
You should have the inner intent (bhaav) that You want