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Aptavani-4
Dadashri: Yes, real independence – where there is no
superior and no “underhand” (subordinate).
Questioner: Is it possible to attain such an independent
state in the worldly life (sansar)?
Dadashri: Why not? I have attained it. I am living proof
that it is possible to attain such a state, even while living in the
worldly life (sansar). You will get some ‘encouragement’ from
seeing me, that it is attainable even while living in the worldly life
(sansar).
Questioner: What is the difference between darshan
(vision as the Self) and Gnan?
Dadashri: Darshan is the main vehicle for moksha.
Gnan is the extension (vishesha) of darshan. When Gnan and
darshan come together, it gives rise to conduct (charitra).
What is Gnan? It is that which has been known and understood
through darshan (understanding through the vision as the Self).
When that understanding “fits” within, and when one is able to
make others understand; when such a state arises, it is called
Gnan. The real work is done by darshan.
Questioner: Is there a relationship between Gnan and
Shuddhatma?
Dadashri: Shuddhatma is really the Gnanswaroop (the
Gnan; the state of the Self). Absolute Gnanswaroop is
Parmatma swaroop (The absolute state of the Self).
Questioner: Who binds the karma if the Atma (the Self)
does not do anything?
Dadashri: The ego that says, “I did this,” is itself the one
that binds karma.
Questioner: What is the difference between the Knower
(gnayak) and an inquisitive person (jignyasu)?