Aptavani-2
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God is not to be found amongst people who have rigid
rules; He is to be found where there are no rules or regulations.
He will even be amongst thieves provided they have no rules. It
is because people have harmony amongst them that God will
grace his presence there. Here in satsang with us, where there are
no rules, people sit as they please, they sit comfortably because
here every one is self-disciplined on their own accord. They
become so disciplined that they do not need to have rules in place.
Where there are no rules, rules are naturally conformed to.
Government makes laws, people make laws, communities
make laws and so everyone is caught in the jaws of the laws.
There should be no laws in religion. Those who get caught in the
web of laws become trapped by the lawyers (who wear black
robes). The black robes themselves tell you they are ill-omen.
One day the world will do away with laws. No courts!
The courts have ruined everything. The black robes (lawyers
and courts) have ruined everything. Excessive laws have turned
everything to poison. Laws have to be reasonable and there
should never be any laws in religion. So then why do we have
Jains and Vaishnavs? How can you call yourself a Jain? How
can you call yourself a Vaishnav? How can you say you have
‘developed’? Laws and rules are necessary for you only if you
are foolish. They are not necessary for you, if you are cultured
and developed. Jains do not need laws; they can discern all the
laws from within. ‘We’ have allowed people to do whatever
they please without any laws. ‘We’ have given them all the
freedom.
A group of us had gone on a 38-day pilgrimage and there
too, we had no laws. We did not have a rule that no one could
fight or quarrel; everyone was free to fight with whomever they
pleased. It was not as if ‘we’ encouraged anyone to fight, but
neither did ‘we’ discourage anyone from doing so. If people
fought, ‘we’ would simply observe them. They would get into