247 Ink Magazine (December/January) 2016 Issue#12 | Page 201

and Joe Sorren. I had this idea for a painting then I went and did a guest spot at Cleen Rock’s shop. I had a client out there and he asked if I had anything in my sketchbook that I had been thinking of doing or looking to do. So I pulled out some sketches of my paintings that I had no intention of tattooing. The guy really liked them because they were different and nobody was doing stuff like that back then at least not in tattooing. I did that on e and all of sudden that’s all I was doing. It took off really fast. Now knowing that, would you rather work with most of what the client wants or would you rather have the freedom to do what you want once they give you an idea? Ideally my preference is…I don’t like having freedom; take a drawing and I’ll take that. I never know what to design for people. So I always like having a loose idea. I have a career that spans almost 20 years now so when I was doing the creepy cute new school stuff it was nice because I got known for it. It was all I did. People really started trusting me and it was almost at a point where people started to try to out-weird each other. It was fun. It was always like a challenge. So I got really fun ideas from my clients; I had really cool clients. I was living out in California for a while then when I moved back out to Ohio I ran into a problem where a lot of the clients out here…I don’t know if they just weren’t into the style that I was doing or they didn’t want what I did. They hired me because they knew I could put in a solid tattoo but they weren’t hiring me to do what I did. That was like a struggle because I lost my voice as an artist for a long time. It made me not want to do art. I almost retired from tattooing because of it. Although I like the idea that we are a service and you’re trying to do the best for your clients but it’s 199