100 BARS MAGAZINE 011 JUL/AUG 2014 | Page 52

Referee: I love it. It’s a new golden era and lyricism is finally at the forefront again. Don’t get me wrong, I like hearing club and trap music when I’m partying but when I’m anywhere else, I want to hear a rapper talk about something meaningful. Sean: Who are the best artists right now? Is there anyone who motivates you now? Referee: I rock with Jay-Z, Eminem, Joe Budden, Andre, Jadakiss; a lot of people. If you can actually rap, I f**k with it. Sean: Do you feel at a disadvantage being a white emcee? Referee: It’s a double-edged sword. Most people think you’re wack and have preconceived opinions about you, but once they hear you, then you get a boost for being a dope white boy. I have thick skin, so the s**t doesn’t phase me much. Sean: Do you feel like you get boxed in with other white rappers in the battle culture? Referee: I think every new rapper does at first, but over time, I’ll show people I have my own skill set. You just have to show and prove until you break out of those boxes. Sean: How do you feel about the use of gun bars and street rap in general? Referee: It’s fine with me. In Cleveland, we’re brought up in 52 a violent area. Everybody — whether you’re white, black, green, purple — has a street mentality in some way. We like that street s**t. Sean: How do you feel about battle rap going commercial and getting mainstream success? How do you feel about the money in battle rap? Referee:  I like it. More money. More exposure. Sounds good to me. As long as the founders and the right people keep quality control over it, it’ll keep growing. Love it. It’s just going to get more and more lucrative. Sean: What is your opinion of politics in the culture and how is it affecting the game? Referee: Every business has politics. It’s all about building relationships and networking. I’m a businessman, so I’ll maneuver just fine. Some people just don’t know how to make a system work for them, so they complain about it. Sean: Is there anything that you dislike about battle rap or hip-hop today? Referee: The only thing I don’t like is when some of the Top Tiers I rock with get comfy and start slacking on their rounds. Other than that, I like just about every aspect of the culture. Sean: Who is the worst emcee in battle rap today? Referee: O Solo, because nothing he says moves me. He’s entertaining, but not because of his bars. Sean: Who is the most overrated in battle rap? Referee: Big T, because he’s a Top Tier that hasn’t had a classic round in more than five battles. Sean: What is your favorite battle and why? Either Chilla-JC or Danny Myers-Rum Nitty, because all three rounds they were hungry. I’ve watched both at least 15 times. It’s hard to find matches with battlers going all out like that back and forth. Sean: How do you prepare rounds and how does that writing process differ from when you make music? Referee: I let a lot of punchlines and wordplay come to me naturally instead of forcing it, whereas in music, it’s a little easier to write, because the beat can guide you. Sean: What do you have to say to those that say battlers can’t make musi